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This site is in loving memory of my brother

Gordon John Matthews
2nd March 1965 - 5th January 2003

 


This is a  support group for those who have lost loved ones to suicide & need support coping with the loss & the grief.
Please wait & read the page as it downloads the music.

Gordon always said I was good with computers and I've got a 4 minute mp3 compressed to 640KB
that only takes about 4-5 minutes to load and plays the whole song.
Maybe in some special way he helped me figure it out.

I cry every time I listen to it.  Its who Gordon was to me & how he was always there for me as a big brother. 

Then, when the music stops

A moment silence in memory of Gordi, who we all love and miss dearly...

Then Listen to Amazing Grace further down
(This also takes about 4-5 minutes to download but I think the time is well worth waiting for in respect & memory of my brother)


 

 

 

 

Gordon, two years old.
Born in England

CELINE DION LYRICS

"Because You Loved Me"

For all those times you stood by me
For all the truth that you made me see
For all the joy you brought to my life
For all the wrong that you made right
For every dream you made come true
For all the love I found in you
I'll be forever thankful baby
You're the one who held me up
Never let me fall
You're the one who saw me through through it all


You were my strength when I was weak
You were my voice when I couldn't speak
You were my eyes when I couldn't see
You saw the best there was in me
Lifted me up when I couldn't reach
You gave me faith 'coz you believed
I'm everything I am
Because you loved me


You gave me wings and made me fly
You touched my hand I could touch the sky
I lost my faith, you gave it back to me
You said no star was out of reach
You stood by me and I stood tall
I had your love I had it all
I'm grateful for each day you gave me
Maybe I don't know that much
But I know this much is true
I was blessed because I was loved by you


You were my strength when I was weak
You were my voice when I couldn't speak
You were my eyes when I couldn't see
You saw the best there was in me
Lifted me up when I couldn't reach
You gave me faith 'coz you believed
I'm everything I am
Because you loved me


You were always there for me
The tender wind that carried me
A light in the dark shining your love into my life
You've been my inspiration
Through the lies you were the truth
My world is a better place because of you
You were my strength when I was weak
You were my voice when I couldn't speak
You were my eyes when I couldn't see
You saw the best there was in me
Lifted me up when I couldn't reach
You gave me faith 'coz you believed
I'm everything I am
Because you loved me


You were my strength when I was weak
You were my voice when I couldn't speak
You were my eyes when I couldn't see
You saw the best there was in me
Lifted me up when I couldn't reach
You gave me faith 'coz you believed
I'm everything I am
Because you loved me


I'm everything I am
Because you loved me


Amazing Grace Lyrics

(Right click and select Play - Please be patient - Also takes about 4 minutes to download)


Amazing grace, how sweet the sound,
That saved a wretch like me.
I once was lost, but now I am found.
Was blind but now I see.

Twas grace that taught my heart to fear,
And grace my fears relieved.
How precious did the grace appear,
The hour I first believed.

Thru many dangers, toils and snares,
I have already come.
This grace has brought me save thus far,
And grace will lead me home.

When we've been there ten thousand years,
Bright shining as the sun.
We've no less days to sing God's praise,
Than when we'd first begun.


~Amen~


This list is for anyone who has lost a loved one and is going thru the grieving process. I just lost my brother on 5th January 2003. He hung himself.  It has been a horrid shock. I loved him dearly and I know I am still in denial. I find nights hard because its quiet and there isn't a lot to do and so I've got online to find someone to chat to that would understand. I have had trouble finding places to go to so I have started this list. It doesn't matter who you are or where you live or who you've lost or where your at with the grieving process. Please join and help support each other.


You might think yuk, what a horrid background! It was Gordon's favourite colour. All his friends knew it and many wore something orange to his funeral. I am so proud to be his sister. The chapel was full. About 250 people were there. Most of all, they said they were not there to morn his death but to celebrate his life.

I am hoping that in time, I will be able to get photo's of him up on this site as a memorial. Where me and his friends can visit and look at the pictures or even post up their thoughts when I get that application up.

You would think that "getting over it" wouldn't be difficult.  I honestly never really took much notice of the word "Grief" or the ritual of "mourning".  I had not even known of anyone I knew to die.  Nor any friends of friends.  Our mother brought us up as far as I remember, believing that there is something "beyond" death.  But, why does the first person I ever know who's died have to be my brother, who I loved so much?  Now I really do understand what "Grief" is all about.  Since his departure I've been a total mess.  I cant talk or write about him without crying, even if I think I'm ok about it or feeling stronger about it, it still always knocks me over.

I thought of something the other night.  He had a mobile phone.  I believe he owned it.  Just out of curiosity I phoned it and was shocked at first that no one answered and it clicked over to his voice message.  I immediately recorded it onto my computer as people say that time heals all wounds, but in time you also being to forget.  I'm not going to let that happen with Gordon.  Now I still have his voice that I can listen to when I'm thinking about him.  I don't know who has his phone but yesterday I phoned it again but this time I left a message, ended up crying like anything, talking like I was leaving him a message telling him I loved him and miss him and understand why he did what he did and hoped that he was at peace.

I since found out from Dave that he had left Gordon's voice message there for that very reason and even he had done the same. If only Gordon would have known what pain he was going to leave behind.  But I'm not angry at him, I'm so sorry he didn't go to someone for help.  He was in a lot of deep emotional pain.

Just click on the button to hear his voice.


I came across this letter that Gordon wrote when he was 8 years old.

When he obviously got in trouble in class for talking:

Why I should not talk in School

I should not talk in school because it is a school rule. But I have always been the chatter box of the family and it is very hard to stop something you are used to. My teacher made me do this because she does not like people talking in class and I think its rotton luck to have to write this out before the end of the day because I hate writing and I talk for the sake of talking.

 


Sent to me by a net friend:

 

You can shed tears that he is gone

Or you can smile because he has lived

 

You can close your eyes and pray that he will come back

Or you can open your eyes and see all that he has left

 

Your heart can be empty because you can't see him

Or you can be full of the love that you shared

 

You can turn your back on tomorrow and live yesterday

Or you can be happy for tomorrow because of yesterday

 

You can remember him and only that he is gone

Or you can cherish his memory and let it live on

 

You can cry and close your mind, be empty and turn your back

Or you can do what he would want: smile, open your eyes, love and go on.

 

written 1981

David Harkins 1959 -

Silloth, Cumbria, UK


I remember when we were youngish, around 10 maybe older.  He used to make up a lot of the model kits of tanks with soldiers and aircrafts.  He would paint them and put their stickers on and all.  but, come guyfawks, back in those days when we were allowed the tomb thumbs and double happies.  He would attach them to his models and blow them all up!  Every guyfawks I always remember that.

 


The story as seen in the eyes of Julie, Gordon's sister:

Gordon was sad that he was what he said as being "nowhere" in his life. Ok, he had work and sports activities he went to and a nice flash car, but nothing that really meant something, like a relationship with a possible future of children. But he felt that he had had that opportunity twice and twice he screwed thing up. He honestly did not know why. We talked at times about the fact that we grew up without our parents showing us love, if anything we got the opposite, so he said to me how can I trust myself that I am showing love in the right way when I don't know what to do? Am I doing the right things with what I say and do and share with my wife? Or am I letting her down and she's unhappy and not telling me so will this last? He was too humble to ask that outright. But he always had those questions on his mind, haunting him.

He totally destroyed his second marriage. Even I was shocked to find they had broken up. They were the perfect couple, and had so much ahead of them and just looked perfect for each other. both having a very much social life and fun of sports or doing things with their friends etc. But Gordon run out on her. It was after they started talking about kids. Gordon wanted kids more than anything. So much that no words can say. But, Our mum, when she gave birth to Gordon, he was breach. So he was turned around. During that process, there was some internal damage done to our mum. She couldn't have any more children after that, so I am actually his adopted sister. But we never thought anything of that. We were brother and sister and that was that. Mum however, constantly reminded Gordon of the damage he had done to her during birth. She would say it in a nasty way like blaming him for the damage and the pain and the fact she couldn't have anymore kids, and her stomach was bloated which was his fault as well. He grew up with her at him about that constantly. So when it came time to think of having his own kids he obviously had those thoughts in the back of his mind about what happened to his mum, where he was breach and hurt her. He did not want to hurt his wife, he just couldn't do it. At the time he hadn't thought that this was shy he backed away from her and went off with someone else who already had a child. It was his psychologist that put two and two together. To Gordon, that made so much sense because he had been so confused. Loving his wife but leaving her life that because deep down he thought what happened to mum could happen to his wife. He instantly left the girl he was with. He went to see his wife's parents out of respect for them, and explained things to them and apologised and asked their permission to speak to his wife and explain things. They allowed it. But, his wife had been hurt so much when he took off with another woman. Gordon said she said she had to change from loving him to hating him to stop the hurting inside. He had totally confused her and messed her up. She simply couldnt accept that besides this business from the past, it was the fact that he went off with another woman. That she felt was wrong and that whe could not trust him again. Over time, Gordon and I talked abut him and that he wanted to find a partner and settle down and have kids. At times he said it hurt him seeing Daniel because he would think, I wish I had kids. He often said that he was useless because he had screwed up not just one marriage but two, and that he had hurt two people very seriously. What would happen if he did find someone else, would he end up doing it a third time???? But that's what he wanted to do, settle down and have a family. But he was worthless to anyone and deeply ashamed of having already hurt two people. He was hurting deep down about having done that on top of desperately wanting to make something of his life and settle down. It was like he was in a cycle that ended him up no where. I know he was more hurt that he hurt two people he loved, more that the fact that he find a partner and settle down and have kids. He said in his suicide letter that he felt great remorse for having hurt people and that there was no excuse and he didn't deserve to be worthy of anyone and was disgusted with what he had done, so he was going to end his journey early so no one else got hurt.  He was obviously feeling so bad that he had hurt some people, but I believe everyone should deserve a second chance and now I am hurting because I have lost a brother I loved so much, and I am angry that he has gone for this reason.  We all make mistakes, we all deserve another chance, he didn't choose the childhood he had, nor the mother he had.  Had he not been tormented about the damage he had done to mum like he was then this tragedy would  not even be thought of.  With his marriage, as I say, everyone deserves a second chance, he asked for one and it was denied.  I am angry that he wasn't given that second chance or he would still be alive today.  Some people may take offense to me saying that but Gordon was MY brother, MY family, MY best friend who always picked me up when I fell over, MY idol because he seemed to be strong and could deal with anything.  Now he's gone.  Its been 3 months and I still cry every night.  I'm sorry if anyone is offended by what I wrote.  I wrote this at around 3am one morning, one of the many mornings I've not been able to sleep and sometimes, because of the grief, I miss him and I can feel sad, or even mad.  As I'm sure you can understand.  But I write these things as I am feeling at that time as part of the healing process.  Writing helps.  Sure, I cry and cry as I write but its better to do that than bottle it up which is what I did with what happened to me as a child.

By Julie, Gordon's sister.

Note:  I feel that this could have been avoided.  The first thing I said when I found out he had killed himself that "It was mums fault" and I never wanted to see her again.  As Gordon and I had been seeing her each weekend as therapy for ourselves to try and love her and forgive her and to be there for her.  It was not easy.  I remember Gordon saying at one time "I have to be so emotionally strong to go and see her". I had got to the point where I could hug her and say I love you but there was still some resentment I had to deal with.  We couldn't discuss things with her because she has dementia.  And I was angry with his wife, that she didn't give Gordon that second chance.  Having found out the root of why he had behaved like that he surely could have been forgiven since it was something he had had drummed into his head as a child growing up and he was scared he would hurt her, like something might go wrong with her delivering a child.  But I do understand what she would have had to go through with Gordon ending things the way he did.  She went through a lot of pain herself.  Even with Gordon's explanation, he didn't like the fact that there was another woman involved and so couldn't trust him in either respect.


Its Easter today, Good Friday. 18/4/2003

I cant not include Gordon in the celebration, even if it was just a phone call.  I have prayed and talked to him wishing him a happy Easter but its a sad one for me.

Julie


 

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A wonderful chat room full of people who will listen and understand and share their stories with you and will help you through the rough times.  I have found it a great place to go and talk and simply "get things off my chest".  I had been having trouble at night time when all is quiet and Id think of my brother and just lose the plot, but here, they listen and help.  They are going through the same and are great understanding caring people.  Go visit if your grieving and need to talk.



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